Whenever government contracting is involved, I’m often leery about how it was done.
Was it a “No-bid,” contract where the rights were granted to someone os “Special Importance?
We have all heard the stories of the millions of taxpayer dollars spent on items that could have been purchased of the shelf at about 1/10 the price.
In the light, I’m wondering if GLOCK was included in the bidding.
Glock pistols made in Belgium are known for their ruggedness and have passed the drop test meaning, they will not fire if dropped.
The GLOCK 17 Gen 4, in 9×19, introduces revolutionary design changes to the world’s most popular pistol.
The Modular Back Strap design lets you instantly customize its grip to adapt to an individual shooter’s hand size.
The surface of the frame employs the new scientifically designed, real-world-tested, Gen 4 rough textured technology.
Internally, the new GLOCK dual recoil spring assembly substantially increases the life of the system.
A reversible enlarged magazine catch, changeable in seconds, accommodates left or right-handed operators.
The G17 Gen 4 9×19 mm pistol also retains the GLOCK accessory rail for your attachments.
Since winning the U.S. Army’s coveted Modular Handgun System competition back in January, things have been less than smooth sailing for Sig Sauer.
First, Sig’s primary MHS rival Glock lodged a protest with the U.S. Government Accountability Office in February, which was subsequently thrown out.
Then in May, Steyr launched legal proceedings to sue Sig for patent infringement.
Sig’s problems worsened last week when online rumors broke suggesting that the P320 was prone to accidental discharges when dropped.
Two videos have since emerged that show the Sig pistol firing when dropped. The first shows the pistol discharging when landing on its magazine bas
The Washington Times
December 1st, 2017
Soldiers from the U.S. Army’s iconic 101st Airborne Division out of Fort Campbell, Kentucky, were the first to field the new M17 pistol this week.
The era of the Beretta-made M9 for Army leaders is over with the introduction of Sig Sauer’s new Modular Handgun System. A select group of soldiers tested M17s on Monday.
Roughly 2,000 pistols were inventoried and inspected prior to the demonstration.
“This is another 101st first,” Maj. Gen. Andrew P. Poppas, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) commander said Wednesday. “Our 75-year legacy is full of landmark moments like this. […] It is an easy, smooth-firing weapon.”
The M17 pistol and the M18 (a compact alternative) are variants of Sig Sauer’s commercially available P320 pistol.
The products are the result of the New Hampshire-based company’s $580 million contract with the Army signed in January.
“[M9s are] pretty dated technology,” Lt. Col. Steven Power said of Beretta’s pistol, which was an Army standard sidearm since 1986.
“The specific performance improvements from MHS over the M9 include better accuracy, tighter dispersion, and better ergonomics, which combined result in a far more lethal pistol.”
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In the Tupperware department, if there was interest, the Glock M21 in .45 acp, should have been looked at. I am an Old School 1911 guy.
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That is what happens when we are forced to go with the lowest bidder. Let’s hope nobody in our Military ever gets a case of the butterfingers! Having “just one teeny little fault” can get a lot of our troops killed just to save the government a “little bit” of money.
Reminds me of when General Motors knew their cars had a “teeny ignition problem” and calculated how many needless deaths they could afford to pay for rather than do a recall and re-tool the factories. They kept producing death traps for YEARS! My Impala was running great, but I was so angry that I sold it anyway, even AFTER they had fixed it. I just wondered how many OTHER faults they were hiding! I learned to drive in a 1952 Chevy, had driven mostly GM products my entire life. Once the TRUST is gone- – it never comes back!
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Total agreement Granny, that’s why I put together the article and did the additional digging. U.S. Government=Corruption at all levels when money is involved!!!
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Hahahaha do ya still got that 52 CHEV?
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Reblogged this on Give Me Liberty.
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I wouldnt mind having one those guns though
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Nope, you want a Glock, i’ve got 4 of them.
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Ken, that was my mother’s car. She traded it for a bright red ’57 with a white hardtop. THAT is the one I wish I still had! She always drove just as fast as the car would go, took every corner on two wheels. I am lucky to be alive. I finally took her keys away when she was 85. She never forgave me.
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Hahaha oh my
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Neither pistol is satisfactory as a combat pistol. Both are fine weapons at a shooting range, where they are carried to the line in a case, set on a bench, slowly and carefully loaded, aimed, and fired.
Combat pistols get normally get carried in holsters when leaving the arms-room. After that they’re liable to get stuck into pants or vest pockets, stuck on radio racks in tanks, and APCs, and dropped on various surfaces. In the real world, they are often loaded throughout all their adventures.
The M1911A1 remained in service for the better part of a century for a number of reasons. First and foremost, it used the world’s most powerful and lethal combat cartridge (.45 ACP), which was as lethal it close range as the contemporary rifle cartridge (the .30’06) was at 100 yards. Secondly, it had an exposed hammer, which enabled it to be fully loaded, with a round in the chamber with the pistol safely de-cocked but capable of instant cock-and-fire. Thirdly, it had a grip safety which prevented the possibility of accidental discharge. Fourthly, the pistol was inherently accurate.
In recent years pistols have been maligned as combat weapons. In truth, in close combat they are the most useful of weapons. Carbines and shotguns are awkward weapons inside buildings and alleys because their length. Pistols are not so easily snatched away. Up through the 1990s, pistol training was all ranks and MOS training as was rifle training. Now it’s almost a lost art.
The adoption of what’s essentially a civilian target pistol that requires careful TLC is a backwards step. But then again, so was the adoption of the lower-powered 9mm Parabellum cartridge.
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Not buying why you are selling, M1911 are heavy and they rust, Glock’s can be carried under water, great for SEALS and RANGERS.
SEALS have switched to GLOCKS if they like, see video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwcnaQWE9uM
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Au contraire, bro.
When you take your Glock apart (remove the slide from the frame) you will notice that, with the exception of the trigger mechanism,, most of the parts are steel assemblies imbedded in plastic. There are microscopic gaps between the nickel-carbon steel and the plastic which holds them in place. Water (a very small molecule) WILL get into those pores between steel and plastic. Unlike the Colt (M1911), those parts cannot be removed from the pistol for maintenance. And they WILL rust. Hence, you have to keep a Glock as sloppy inside with CLP as you do any other firearm.
War is a rough and dusty business. Weapons cleaning and maintenance is a CONSTANT task. He who does not keep his weapon clean and functional will not survive in an environment full of flying metal and, debris, while things get dropped and stepped/fallen upon. You grab your Glock roughly with a finger (or something catches it) in the trigger-guard and it will go off regardless of what or who’s in front of the muzzle. You cannot manually cock (or re-cock) it without cycling the slide. In a firefight (or stumbling around in the small rooms of a house), split seconds are the difference between life and death. War up close is a brutal and vulgar brawl. And your pistol may be a blunt object you have to slam against somebody’s face (probably why Marine Force Recon buys Kimber M1911s off the shelf).
In all respect to my SEAL friends (yes – being a range officer in San Diego I DO have many) , they are high-speed raiders used against lightly defended opponents (support and command/control centers). Lightly armed (and armored), they will die if left no escape and are trapped/outgunned by heavy enemy elements.
Also, the modern army is mechanized. Highly mechanized. Lay (set aside) a plastic pistol down (which you will have to do frequently, with all your weapons) near a hot diesel engine or generator, and it will never quite function the same as it once did. It won’t melt, but the fit and form of its steel-to-plastic assemblies/parts (they expand differently) will be damaged.
The adoption of the 9mm was a sop to NATO taken by the Bush-41 administration, just as the adoption of the Beretta was a sop to the Italians for our putting in our Pershing-II nukes in Ravenna (you adopt something from us, we accept your nukes). The Beretta (M9) frame and (t he mostly open) slide are not strong enough to handle the .45ACP.
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The Parabellum 9mm had good penetration. But the .45 ACP will take the back of your skull off. Pistols in European armies are considered the hallmark of an officer, who are not supposed to be exposed to direct fire. American officers (Army and Marine) lead from the front, and have always done so. Hence , our sidearms must have the same terminal effect at close range as the infantryman’s rifle. A single shot must be able to kill or cripple an opponent before you move on.
So – none of this wounding an enemy to he’ll be a later burden to his buddies crap. You capture the bastard or send him to hell before he rolls over and shoots you in the back.
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Tell me again why SEALS prefer them?
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Check this link out on Metal in Glocks...http://www.military-today.com/firearms/glock_18.htm
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Seriously you are bull shitting now aren’t you. Why as the United States Military switch to 9 mm rounds. They are perfect for blowing holes in peoples heads.
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NO BS. Just 22 years in the Army (era spanned Vietnam through Desert Storm). Weapons are subject to rough treatment and conditions. Fancy crap simply doesn’t hold up. I spent my first sixr years living in muddy prone fighting positions (three M16s long and two bayonets deep). Being an infantryman is a dirty, exhausting, and lonely profession. It isn’t holding a toy in your hands and playing some fucking video game. Killing perfect strangers isn’t as easy as you’d think, even if you call them Gooks or Ragheads to play mind-games with yourself.
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