Comments by Jim Campbell
October 16, 2018
This should go over well, whatever they do, don’t call it a tax.
Despite lacking any evidence that will stand up to scientific rigor that man causes a significant rise in the climate, the blind, crippled and the crazy are set to jam this down our throats.
The female photographer who submitted the above image had no interest in the global warming game, she submitted this noting that polar bears can swim several hundred miles to the next ice flow, rest a bit and keep on swimming. (Source)
The fail to mention that the Polar Population has nearly doubled in a very short time which of course they never mention because it goes against their well orchestrated propaganda. (Source)
Thus another lie was used to support their lack of data.
The methodology used to come to their conclusions are lack luster at best.
I’m all for creating new energy-saving industries, but before this is done, make the global warming zealots prove their findings are real.
A Psych. ward would be fitting.
When they can’t, Gore and the rest of his junta that have promoted this tripe must be put before a grand jury, if indicted go to trial, and if found guilty be sent to prison.
What could possibly go wrong?
Below: Becky Kelley, president of the Washington Environmental Council, and Dana Bieber, spokesperson for No on I-1631, debate the carbon-fee initiative ahead of the November election.
Very little of what comes out the the state of Washington as depicted by the women below can be taken seriously.
Voters in Washington state will go to the polls Nov. 6 to decide whether or not they want to impose a first-of-its-kind “fee” on carbon emissions.
Ballot initiative 1631 marks the second time the state will vote to put a cost on emissions.
A prior effort, labeled a carbon tax, failed when it was on the ballot two years ago.
Proponents including Democratic Governor Jay Inslee and Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates are hoping the new proposal — which the state estimates would raise $2.3 billion for clean-energy investment by 2025 — will win more backing.
Let’s call them what they really are. Bill and Milinda Gates Windmill Farms.
If passed, it would be the first effort of its kind enacted by referendum anywhere in the world, making the state a global leader in climate policy at the same time the Trump administration is reversing some federal measures.
“If it passes, it would encourage carbon-tax supporters in other states — as a matter of political reality, this means ‘blue’ states — to pursue analogous referendums,” said Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James & Associates in Houston, said in an email.
Because Washington is already one of the cleanest U.S. states in terms of greenhouse gases, a carbon fee would be less of a burden for households there than in other places, according to Neelesh Nerurkar, vice president with the Washington-based research firm ClearView Energy Partners LLC.
Fifty percent of registered voters support the measure, with 36 percent opposed, and 14 percent undecided, according to a poll conducted Oct. 4 to Oct. 9 by Elway Research and Crosscut, an online news provider.
The margin of error is 5 percent.
The idea is to make carbon pollution more expensive so people will use less fossil fuel.
Though with abundant hydroelectric power, Washington is already among the least carbon-intensive states in the nation, ranking ninth lowest in U.S. Energy Information Administration data.
It produces more hydroelectric power than any other state — more than double Oregon, which ranks second.
So the Washington measure isn’t likely to change the world, but “doing something is better than doing nothing,” said Robert Stavins, director of Harvard University’s environmental economics program.
Ballot initiative 1631 would impose a fee beginning in 2020 on major emitters of carbon dioxide, including refineries, power utilities and oil and gas producers.
The amount would start at $15 per ton of emitted CO2 and increase by $2 a year, plus inflation, until the state meets its 2035 emissions goal to cut CO2 to 25 percent below 1990 levels.
The “NO on 1631” political-action committee estimates it would increase state gasoline prices as much as 14 cents a gallon.
The group led by the Western States Petroleum Association — which faults the measure for exempting other major polluters — has amassed more than $21.3 million to fight the state proposal.
Washington is the fifth-largest state in terms of refining capacity.
The measure “creates an un-level playing field within our industry, raising energy prices and failing to provide adequate transparency and accountability,” said Jamal Kheiry, a spokesman for Marathon Petroleum Corp., one of the top corporate donors along with Phillips 66 and BP Plc.
Backers of the measure — who have raised $8.49 million — were emboldened by two events last week:
The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a 700-page report chastising world leaders for their inaction on cutting greenhouse gas emissions and William Nordhaus of Yale University won half of the 2018 Nobel Prize in economics for research on how carbon-emissions pricing can drive change in the energy sector and in consumer behavior.
“The UN report is a seal of approval, that we’ve accurately assessed the dangers to our state,” Inslee said in an interview.
“It’s a scientific coda to what we’re feeling personally.
We’re choking on smoke from fires the last two summers.
We’re seeing our shellfish industry damaged because of ocean acidification.”
The money the measure would raise is earmarked for environmental and community programs — not the state treasury — meaning it’s technically not a tax, Harvard’s Stavins said.
In the 2016 referendum, 59 percent of Washington voters rejected the carbon tax, which would have used revenue from the levy to cut other taxes and provide rebates to low earners.
Environmental activists broke ranks over what to do with the proceeds, with some pushing for spending on renewable energy, public transit and communities inundated with pollution.
The 2018 version, developed in consultation with labor and social justice groups, American Indian tribes, communities of color, health organizations and business groups, is more politically viable because it invests in programs people want, said Mo McBroom, director of government relations for The Nature Conservancy, which has pumped $1 million into the pro-carbon-fee campaign.
A third of the money raised will go to addressing forest-fire risk and water-supply issues and the rest to carbon-reduction strategies.
‘Incentives and Activities’
“Our strategy is more focused on investing in the incentives and activities on the ground that will make us less reliant on fossil fuels,” she said.
The 2016 measure “had no chance of passing” because the public “did not want to tax itself in order to pay for tax breaks.”
Average household fuel costs would rise by $13 a month, according to the Washington State Budget & Policy Center, a Seattle-based group that develops and analyzes economic and policy proposals.
“What we have found is that people understand that their children’s health is worth a few dollars a month,” Inslee said.
“You have excess pollution and inadequate health and this simply tries to reduce that externality by imposing a cost on something that is a cost to all of us.”