If the United States Supreme Court takes this case when it comes back to work in October, it will be anything but a slam dunk.


The makeup of the court will certainly be important with Justice Gorsuch’s recent appointment.

Cities, counties, and states apparently believe their rulings are more important than the United States Constitution and the Second Amendment.

There are over 300,000,000 legal gun owners in the United States of America.

Will the Supreme Court take the chance at turning law-abiding citizens into criminals according to their whim?

More to follow in October.


The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is the most frequently overturned appeals court by the United States Supreme Court. (Source)



A landmark ruling came down on February 14, 2014 Peruta v. County of San Diego.

A three-judge panel from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down San Diego County Sheriff William Gore’s policy requiring that law-abiding adults prove they have a special need in order to establish a “good cause” to be issued a license to carry a firearm in public before he would issue them one.

Being able to protect one’s life isn’t reason enough?

The Peruta ruling affirmed that the Second Amendment protects a law-abiding citizen’s right to bear arms outside of home–in some manner.

In other words, the court held that while the government can regulate and even ban some forms of carry (like open or concealed) it cannot ban all forms of carry.

California law generally provides only one way to lawfully carry arms in public, i.e., with a carry license.

If the Peruta decision stands, California sheriffs and police chiefs will no longer be able to deny licenses to carry to people simply because they cannot prove that they have a special need for the license.

Under the legal precedent established by the Peruta case, governments in other Ninth Circuit jurisdictions will also have to provide their residents some way to carry.

While most already do, this will become an issue for the few holdout anti-Second Amendment cities and counties in California, and a few hold-out states in the Ninth Circuit, like Hawaii.

So what happens next?


See the entire article below.


The Peruta decision is still not final. At least not yet. The three judge panel ruling in the Peruta case could be reconsidered by what’s called a “limited en banc” panel in the Ninth Circuit, and it could also be reconsidered by the U.S. Supreme Court. To read more about the process and how this case could develop, visit here.

In the Ninth Circuit, a “limited en banc” panel is the Chief Judge and ten other judges randomly selected from all of the 27 Ninth Circuit judges. Those eleven judges would then reconsider whether the ruling of the three judge panel was correct.

Sheriff Gore announced that he would not appeal the Peruta three judge panel decision, either to an en banc panel or to the Supreme Court. His deadline for doing so has passed.

The Ninth Circuit rules allow any single Ninth Circuit judge—on his or her own accord—to call for a vote by all the Circuit’s judges on whether the case should be reheard en banc. (Gen. Ord. 5.4(c)(3)). But no judge called for such a vote by the deadline.

But, recognizing how the Peruta decision could impact their gun banning agenda, the California Attorney General, the California Police Chiefs’ Association, and the anti-gun-rights group the Brady Campaign, all filed motions seeking to “intervene” into the Peruta case so that they could ask the entire Ninth Circuit court bench to vote on whether to have en banc review. The propriety of these intervention motions is disputed by the Peruta plaintiffs, but a vote by all the Ninth Circuit judges on whether to have an en banc review is inevitable.

Such a vote would either occur in the Peruta case, or it would happen in one of the other two cases, Richards and Baker, that were argued on the same day as the Peruta case in front of the same three judge panel. The Yolo Sheriff in the Richards case has already asked for en banc review, and the Hawaii officials who are the defendants in the Baker case are going to ask for en banc review as well. And even if none of these cases are chosen for en banc rehearing, there are still a half-dozen or so other licensed carry cases pending in the Ninth Circuit, any of which could trigger an en banc rehearing on the general issue that lies at the heart of the Peruta decision; whether the government can require people to demonstrate a special need beyond self-defense in order to establish “good cause” to get a license to carry.

Because a petition on whether the issue should be heard by an en banc panel was inevitable, the Peruta plaintiffs did not oppose the Attorney General’s request to intervene and to ask for a rehearing or rehearing en banc.  Of course, because the Peruta three judge panel decision is emphatically correct, the Peruta plaintiffs will let the court know that there is no need for an en banc rehearing, and the request for en banc review should be rejected, if and when that time comes.

In the meantime, the other potential interveners have no business being in the Peruta case. Formal oppositions to the other motions attempting to intervene were filed on March 26, 2014.

If the Court grants any of these motions to intervene, the en banc process will begin. The Ninth Circuit is the only circuit that appoints a Ninth Circuit judge as an En Banc Coordinator to supervise the en banc process. Coincidentally, Judge Sidney Runyan Thomas—the only dissenting judge in the Peruta decision—is the En Banc Coordinator. If any of the motions to intervene are granted, the petition for rehearing en banc will be circulated to all active judges. At that time, any interested non-panel judge will have potentially up to five weeks to decide whether to request a formal notice from the original panel asking whether the original panel wants to rehear the case. At this time, the original three judge panel may request that the non-petitioning party file a response to the petition. However, if the judges are not interested and no one makes a request to the original panel within the allotted time, the original panel will issue an order stating that the petition is denied.

But, if any Ninth Circuit judge is interested and requests a notice from the original panel, the panel is supposed to inform the rest of the court whether it wants to rehear the case as soon as possible. Ultimately it has ninety days from the date of the request or ninety days from the date the petition was submitted, whichever is later.

Even if the original panel informs the court it does not want to rehear the case, any Ninth Circuit judge can still make a call for en banc vote. At the time a call for en banc vote is made, if not done so before, the non-petitioning party is ordinarily required to file a response to the petition within three weeks. After a response is filed, or if no response was required, the judges will have an additional three weeks to communicate with each other on whether to hear the case en banc. Once those three weeks end, the En Banc Coordinator will notify all active judges to cast their vote within fourteen days of the notice.

A majority vote is required for the Court to grant the petition. This means 14 judges must vote in favor of rehearing the case en banc. If a majority of the judges vote to hear the case en banc, then a panel of Chief Judge Kozinksi and ten other Ninth Circuit judges will be randomly selected to reconsider the three judge panel’s ruling—but even a judge from the original three-judge panel can be still be selected for the en banc panel. However, if the vote fails to obtain majority, the petition will be denied and the three judge panel’s opinion will still stand.

Roughly two thirds of the Ninth Circuit judges are appointed by Democratic presidents, and one third of those judges are appointed by Republican presidents. While this statistic is not determinative of the outcome, it is noteworthy and gives an indication of what an eleven judge en banc review panel might look like philosophically.

As a result, the case could be tied up for awhile on en banc review, perhaps for over a year. The Richards and Baker cases would probably be heard en banc as well, possibly all at the same time.

The Ninth Circuit rules for en banc procedures are located in Chapter V of the Ninth Circuit General Orders. For more details regarding the en banc procedure and the estimated due dates, please see the Ninth Circuit En Banc Procedure Guide and our custom flowchart. If you would like to know more about the role of the En Banc Coordinator, please read Stephen L. Wasby’s A Watchdog For the Good of The Order” The Ninth Circuit’s En Banc Coordinator.

Will the Supreme Court Hear the Case?

An en banc panel has the authority to overturn the three judge panel decision. If the Ninth Circuit votes that an en banc panel should rehear the case and then overturns the three judge panel, the Peruta plaintiffs will then ask the Supreme Court to hear the case. If an en banc panel reviews the three judge panel decision and upholds it, the Attorney General Harris can still petition the Supreme Court for review. If the Ninth Circuit decides not to have an en banc review, the Attorney General Harris could then ask the Supreme Court to review the case.

Obviously, the Supreme Court also has the authority to either uphold or overturn the Peruta decision (either by the three judge panel or an en banc panel). The Supreme Court could also choose to not review the case at all.

The Peruta opinion is comprehensive, thoroughly researched, well-reasoned and well-written. Nonetheless, the issue of licensed public carry is controversial and highly political in California.

One thing is certain; the well financed big-firm lawyers working for the gun ban lobby will stop at nothing in their attempts to overturn this victory for Second Amendment rights. We will fight with everything we have to keep that from happening.

Stay tuned for updates on how the Court rules on these requests to intervene and on the request(s) for en banc review by following the news at

If the Peruta Decision Stands, What Does It Mean?

Technically, the Peruta opinion only affects the San Diego County Sheriff. His policy was the only one challenged by this specific lawsuit. But the Ninth Circuit’s reasoning applies equally to all California sheriffs and police chiefs who issue licenses to carry, and in fact would apply in all jurisdictions within the Ninth Circuit: Alaska, Arizona, California, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Northern Mariana Islands, Oregon, and Washington. Some counties may try to hold on to their unconstitutional policies. New lawsuits will be filed to compel them to follow the constitution.

Apply For a License to Carry Now! 

People have asked whether they should apply for a carry license to carry now, or wait to see what happens in the Peruta case. Because there is no final judgement in Peruta yet, there is no final court order or judgment forcing authorities to issue licenses under the Peruta criteria. If your particular sheriff or police chief would not issue carry licenses before Peruta, technically they are not legally required to change that yet.

Nonetheless, some authorities can see the writing on the wall and are accepting an applicant’s general desire for self-defense as sufficient “good cause” for a carry license based on the reasoning in the Peruta decision.

Orange and Ventura counties have changed their policies in light of the Peruta decision, at least for the time being. Although the jurisdictions have included qualifying language in their policy-change announcements that would allow them to return to their former policy if Peruta is overturned, applying for a carry license now will send a message to the authorities and politicians in those jurisdictions that people demand respect for their Second Amendment rights! Many of these jurisdictions that are changing their policies were getting bad legal advice from gun-ban lobby lawyers who told them they did not have discretion to go shall-issue. Now that they have read the Peruta decision, they realize that they can accept self-defense as good cause, and are coming “off the fence.”

Whether to apply now is a personal decision that each individual should make based on their individual circumstances. But we encourage you to apply now! The procedure has been simplified by NRA supported legislation that passed in 2012, and a denial cannot be lawfully used against you in the future if you apply again.

For More Information

For more information about the Peruta case, and information about getting a license to carry in California generally, check out the reference materials posted here. We will try our best to keep everyone updated as quickly as possible as these cases move through the system. Stay tuned in to NRA-ILA Alerts for California updates.

Support the Fight!

The NRA is committed to protecting the rights of citizens everywhere to bear arms. As things develop, the NRA will help its members in holdout jurisdictions to enforce the Peruta ruling against every recalcitrant county and state in the Ninth Circuit.

You can assist in the fight to defend gun owners’ rights in California courts by donating to the

NRA Legal Action Project today. For a summary of some of the many actions the NRA has taken on behalf of California gun owners, including the tremendous recent victory in the Peruta case click here.

Second Amendment supporters should be careful about supporting litigation efforts promised by other individuals and groups without access to the necessary funding, relationships, firearm experts and experienced lawyers on the NRA’s national legal team. The NRA’s team of highly regarded civil rights attorneys and scholars has the resources, skill and expertise to maximize the potential for victory.




About JCscuba

I am firmly devoted to bringing you the truth and the stories that the mainstream media ignores. Together we can restore our constitutional republic to what the founding fathers envisioned and fight back against the progressive movement. Obama nearly destroyed our country economically, militarily coupled with his racism he set us further on the march to becoming a Socialist State. Now it's up to President Trump to restore America to prominence. Republicans who refuse to go along with most of his agenda RINOs must be forced to walk the plank, they are RINOs and little else.
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